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That is how it appeared to him, yes.

[ there is another annoyed noise ]

... mm.

Then that's the same as Phainon.

Phainon does have that protagonist-like energy.

[ crossing his arms at chest ]

He is a fool who would rather burn himself into a crisp than share his burdens. Had I not convinced him to take the role of Queen seriously he would have simply went on planning a happy end for everyone else. One that would not include him in it.

That hero complex of his is simply annoying.

[hey, wait, this sounds less like Yu Junghyeok suddenly?????

well, except... 999th Yu Junghyeok but--Yu Jungheyoks that Kim Dokja based his Scenarios run off of, hello??]

... why wouldn't he want himself included?

Edited 2025-09-03 19:16 (UTC)

That is a question you should pose to him. He thinks he can just suffer through 33 million cycles and have us accept that another "Deliverer" will bring us salvation. Without even asking us if we'd even want such a thing!

Ridiculous. That he'd be left behind was never agreed upon.

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I have to go now.

[ the JUDGING look ]

Ah, so you have more in common with him too.

I have said nothing of the sort!

You are running away because you're also being scolded.

I. Have not even come close to 33 million, so why should I feel scolded?

Since you're the one acting so guilty, that is for you to say.

How you asked him why he doesn't consider himself?

Even I ended up scattering my stories instead of continuing that cycle, so actually, I'm the one doing much better?

[... this is fucked up reasoning but LISTEN,]

If I ask him he's going to say something foolish like "I'm not human anymore, I'm just a thing made for destruction".

I will concede you are doing better.

[... maybe he should ask Phainon how he became so okay with being that kind of existence. get some tips on accepting being that being of destruction...]

There, see?

Being better than Phainon is not a hard bar to clear. You should aim for higher than that.

You say that even though you chose him as your master?

You do know him succeeding will only enable him more?

[ he's quiet for a moment as he looks over Kim Dokja, like he's trying to decide whether he wants to share his actual plan or not. But then— ]

I do not truly need him to become Queen. I wish to observe this place and the powers it offer, and then steal such power for myself. I am wary of gifts from the gods. This place might not be Amphoreus, but gods are always the same. At least when it comes to those who act as if they are above humanity.

But I need him to be what ties us Chrysos Heir together. He has the presence for it, and he is well beloved by each one of us. That is why this plan is mine, but he is our Master.

Ideally, I should be able to grasp the secrets of this place before he's able to do something foolish.

You're wary of gifts from gods, but you're not wary of him trying something?

That's not it. Phainon doing something stupid is an eventuality I can account for. I know him, and I am hoping I will be able to restrain him. But whatever trick the gods have up their sleeve, I still don't know.

If you're operating off of some nebulous "hope" of some vague concept like "restraining him", then you're already going to lose.

Even without whatever "gods" are running the show in this place.

You said it already. He doesn't think of himself as human, necessarily? So you have to think of him more like a god in that sense. Otherwise, you're definitely going to lose to whatever "stupid" idea he has.

... mm.

It isn't as if I don't know that. I simply could not think of any other way to tie him back to his humanity. To myself and the people he loves.

I do not have anything better than "hope" and my own mind, to work with.

... I was able to get through to that regressor I knew.

But also... at the time, he only remembered two other turns. Even though he'd already been through 1,864 turns.

Being the only one to remember doesn't always means they remember exact details to everything. And I imagine after 33 million turns, he's likely forgotten some things over others. Holds tightly to the things he wants to.

Telling someone who only remembers three turns "you have to leave those other times behind and continue to live in just this one, there is no going back" was already difficult. And I'm not even sure what really convinced him in the end.

To tie him back to his humanity at this point would be a bit cruel...

[ he's quiet as he listens to Kim Dokja's explanation, and then he shakes his head ]

This isn't a matter of making him stop "resetting" our world. From my understanding, he's already done that and has merged himself with a being that is meant to bring destruction to the stars beyond Amphoreus - in an attempt to halt it, and buy us additional time. Had Phainon not held on for those 33 million cycles, not just Amphoreus, but all worlds beyond it would have also been destroyed.

If you wish for more details, you will have to ask him. I only remember two different cycles — one of which was after he'd merged himself with the Lord Ravager.

[oh okay. somehow does NOT burst into laughter because, OH. HE SEES...]

I'm surprised you think you can even convince him to do anything other than what he plans on doing, with this in mind, then.

I could say something like "just remove the god-like qualities from him", but you already provided the reason why you wouldn't. If you did such a thing, then all the universes are destroyed.

"Take away his memories of those 33 million cycles so he can relate to humanity more", but you again provided the reason why you wouldn't. Him living through those cycles means that those worlds and universes were saved.

You're tying your own hands. And that's why. It's a rather pointless endeavor.

But that's fine.

I don't plan to give over the Queen's crown to Phainon in the first place. And I'm someone who's destroyed over a thousand universes just for sheer entertainment, so I have no qualm in ruining one that needs to be ruined.

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